Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Song of the Week, Reogan's Style II: 'Eye of the Storm' by Rozovian

Eye of the Storm is a newer remix of both the Windmill Theme/Song of Storms and the Lost Woods music. Direct link here. Despite the fact that it bgins with weather sounds, the song quickly becomes likable when the familiar Windmill theme cuts in seconds later. It has an odd glassy quality to it, almost crystalline, though one could argue that the song itself is like a light rain. Every note shines, and just as it seems to be returning to the beginning, the Lost Woods theme appears, though to the untrained ear it may be hidden, as the themes are so similar. The song commits the terrible sins of weather noises and electronicishness, but even these are easily overlooked when one hears the beauty of every note.

I have little more to add. Met is much better at this than I am.

31 comments:

Elphaba said...

I actually listened to this one, and it was pretty good! I liked it!

Reogan said...

See? Listening to music can sometimes complement reading about it.

Met said...

Admit it; the only reason you bothered to listen to this is because Reogan posted it and not me. Now look; I know I'm not the "great" Reogan, but I'm starting to get sick of all these subtle reminders of how superior he is to me. Ever since you got here I've taken a back seat in commenting and posting (although this is obviously my decision) so I could see how you two would interact. I know the way Reogan works with more then two people; and this is why my commenting and posting has diminished, because I find Reogan's idea of "social justice" a little unjust and I don't want to get involved in anything that would allow him to pursue such an agenda to "resolve" a potential conflict. Why then am I typing this? Because I'm hoping you'll guys consider that there's more to this blog then Reogan. In fact one of the reasons I'm typing this is to hopefully downsize his ego (like that's ever going to happen, but I can still have hope) and hopefully he'll realize that the majority doesn't matter as much as the individual to another individual. I'm not really offended by anything you guys are doing, bar the subtle hints that Reogan is the greatest person on earth (this isn't a joke kid, take me seriously for once). I just took the opportunity to share some of my lost perspective that few people care about. The point of this isn't for you guys to respond and tell me it's alright. The point of this is for you to think (Reogan and Elphaba) about my perspective and to examine what really motivates you in what you do and why you feel a certain way about certain things. All I can say is keep thinking and realize that you aren't very important without others to interact with, because that's when the fact that you are an individual is revealed; in the fundamental differences of people.

Reogan said...

Unless I'm mistaken, Elphaba actually didn't listen to a single Song of the Day.

The post itself calls for you to return.

I'm not arguing or anything, these are simply facts. Semi-tangentially, we need you back on Wednesdays. Consistently. I miss the music I don't necessarily enjoy (but often do), but can always appreciate.


I want you back.



And much of my vanity is Reogan being Reogan. Not actual perceived superiority.

Met said...

"Unless I'm mistaken, Elphaba actually didn't listen to a single Song of the Day."

Ummm... one slight problem with that. I was the one who convinced you to post it to save me time. I first heard of it through a VGDJ episode. I showed you it, it's more qualified to be my music then it is yours and thus... thanks Elphaba for never listening to it (which by the way I think she did listen to some, so it wasn't a complete loss then, but I'm sure she only did it because it was you).

"The post itself calls for you to return."

I appreciate that, but I want a bigger role in the direction of this site and I also think a slow in production might help me catch up with everything. I'll come back when I want to come back.

"I'm not arguing or anything, these are simply facts."

Sure you aren't... neither am I. This sentence serves little purpose.

"Semi-tangentially, we need you back on Wednesdays."

You don't need me back or otherwise this blog would cease to function without me. If one thing you've shown me in the past month it is that I'm not an integral part of this blog.

"Consistently. I miss the music I don't necessarily enjoy (but often do), but can always appreciate."

Thank you, I'm glad I'm not entirely worthless to you.

"The point of this isn't for you guys to respond and tell me it's alright."

Naturally... what did I expect? Next time I'll just erase that sentence.

Met said...

Can't believe I forgot to respond to the rest of your comment, sorry about that...

"I want you back."

To think that you believe I'm actually useful to you... You're going to have to do better then that if you want me back.

"And much of my vanity is Reogan being Reogan. Not actual perceived superiority."

Explain to me exactly how that works, because it makes no sense whatsoever in defending yourself. This has no explanation...

Reogan said...

"I was the one who convinced you to post it to save me time."

True. However, I only agreed because it was exactly the kind of music I like and would post about. If Elphaba did read it only because I posted it, if she read it, then you have a point. However, I still believe she values your posts as much as mine, if not more.

"I want a bigger role in the direction of this site"

Specifics please? I'd be happy to work with you on this. I never would want to alienate you or anything.

"I also think a slow in production might help me catch up with everything"

My Writing Goal of the Year was actually to post at least five times week on this blog. I recently promised a similar thing on From Whence it Came If that's what you mean. But I don't see how you'd need to 'catch up.' I write fiction. Mostly prose-poems and short stories. Short short stories. What does catching up entail?

"I'll come back when I want to come back"

The rest of us already do. Now only you need to want it.

"You don't need me back or otherwise this blog would cease to function without me."

Technically true. We don't need you. We don't need me. We don't need Elphaba. We don't need Qupar. There need only be one. But just because the blog runs doesn't mean it lives. Your absence is drain which will leave this place a souless husk.

"You're going to have to do better then that if you want me back"

...Please?

"Explain to me exactly how that works"

Reogan is entirely real. He is me. I am him. Yet many of his/my traits are just his actions, not his thought.

Met said...

Ooh, now I have to double quote things, this might take a while to respond to...

""I was the one who convinced you to post it to save me time.""

"True. However, I only agreed because it was exactly the kind of music I like and would post about. If Elphaba did read it only because I posted it, if she read it, then you have a point."

Yes, now I'm sure she'll claim that she didn't read it just because you posted it because to say otherwise would be completely unsubtle and I suppose she'd think to anger me, but I already believe that's the real reason why. I believe she's fascinated by your personality (-rolls eyes- who isn't?).

"However, I still believe she values your posts as much as mine, if not more."

I'm not sure if you really believe this or if you're just saying this to try and help me "feel better" about my current situation.

""I want a bigger role in the direction of this site""

"Specifics please? I'd be happy to work with you on this."

Call me or visit sometime.

"I never would want to alienate you or anything."

Why? Why wouldn't you want to alienate me? How am I still useful?

""I also think a slow in production might help me catch up with everything""

"My Writing Goal of the Year was actually to post at least five times week on this blog. I recently promised a similar thing on From Whence it Came If that's what you mean. But I don't see how you'd need to 'catch up.' I write fiction. Mostly prose-poems and short stories. Short short stories. What does catching up entail?"

We should talk about this as well; call or stop by sometime. I mainly mean readjusting to a larger roll.

""I'll come back when I want to come back""

"The rest of us already do."

How would you know this and why should I believe you? After all you just create worlds, these worlds are made of words. You just create them. What connection do they have to you? How do I know you even mean anything you say at this point?

"Now only you need to want it."

Indeed.

Wow... "Your HTML cannot be accepted: Must be at most 4,096 characters" I've never gotten that before, looks like I'll continue this with my next post...

Met said...

""You don't need me back or otherwise this blog would cease to function without me.""

"Technically true. We don't need you. We don't need me."

We're both admins so running this without an admin wouldn't be as good, but it would still run. However, we need you because you're the only reason people comment. If you want an example just compare my main blog that was in existence before yours and then compare yours in your entirety. There's a reason that your posts have the most comments. You have a "fascinating" personality and while this blog would function without you it wouldn't get anywhere near the attention it does now with you on board.

"We don't need Elphaba. We don't need Qupar. There need only be one. But just because the blog runs doesn't mean it lives. Your absence is drain which will leave this place a souless husk."

Ha ha, you're the one that makes this thing "live" if you haven't noticed. Everyone flocks to your posts because you present subjects more easily and casually discussed and they're posted by you; a "fascinating" personality.

""You're going to have to do better then that if you want me back""

"...Please?"

I would've thought you would've figured out that I was going for a long explanation and some sort of commitment on your part.

""Explain to me exactly how that works""

"Reogan is entirely real. He is me. I am him."

Yes... I'm not that dumb despite what you may think...

"Yet many of his/my traits are just his actions, not his thought."

Let me quote something that I believe you might heed...
"You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone."
-James 2:24

Reogan said...

I'm lazy and tired, so little or no double quotes.

"Yes, now I'm sure she'll claim that she didn't read it just because you posted it because to say otherwise would be completely unsubtle and I suppose she'd think to anger me, but I already believe that's the real reason why."

I'm sure she'll speak for herself soon enough, but I truly believe she has a good deal of interest in/admiration for you.

"I believe she's fascinated by your personality (-rolls eyes- who isn't?)"

If that's the case, then I, as a performer, succeed. As an entertainer, it's my job to fascinate. But I must reiterate that she's captivated by you as well. I think. I hate speaking for her like this.

"I'm not sure if you really believe this or if you're just saying this to try and help me "feel better" about my current situation."

I believe.

"Why? Why wouldn't you want to alienate me? How am I still useful?"

I require positive comments. I feed on them. They make me happy. You comment honestly, and when they're positive I rejoice. As I'm sure you know, posting is hard so your help is appreciated. You provide new perspective, and new subject matter.

"How would you know this and why should I believe you?"

Elphaba's expressed to me her interest in the character of Met alone, in addition to your works. If you think I simply fabricate false realities now, there's no way I can convince you otherwise. All I can say is that my fiction is fairly obviously fiction. This seems real to me.

"However, we need you because you're the only reason people comment."

Putting aside vanity (Of which I have much), I concede. I am the entertainer. But that's who I am. Sometimes, though, people need more than just entertainment. Surely you can see that?

"I would've thought you would've figured out that I was going for a long explanation and some sort of commitment on your part."

No explanation now other than again saying how your return would be of immeasurable value. And what commitment do you mean?

"Reogan is entirely real. He is me. I am him."

"Yes... I'm not that dumb despite what you may think..."

No! I had to double-quote! Anyway, I mean only that Reogan and I are two but one. He has different thoughts and will than I. He's crazy. He's dangerous. Yet all at once, he is still me. He sees me in a similar way, except more dull.

Elphaba said...

Okay, you know what, Met?!? I was fully prepared to stand up for you! You think that I like you less than Reogan??? Let me give you a few examples of how that's not true:

I consistently remind Reogan that he is not the only admin on his blog! I commented on one of his other blogs that you were better at arguing logic with him than I was! If you noticed, I didn't comment on Reogan's other song of the week, and the fact that I listened now had NOTHING to do with the author who posted it!

You seem to be really mad at me, and for the life of me, I cannot figure out why! Half the time, I don't comment on Reogan's stuff either! I'm trying to comment more regularly because Reogan asked me to on one of his other blogs. I thought it was a good idea, and NOT because Reogan thought of it!

To be continued...

Elphaba said...

Yes, I feel differently about Reogan and you. But at the risk of sounding like a jerk (although, at this point, I don't really care WHAT you think of me!), NO DUH! You're two completely different people! I used to enjoy the fact that you used logic, that you weren't afraid to stand up for your faith on a private blog, and that you seemed more grounded in reality than Reogan.

But the past tense is because you're acting like a jerk! Instead of askimg me why I finally started to listen to SOTW, you just assume it's because of Reogan! That is judgemental and hurtful. Seriously, you were a really good friend, Met, but you totally just RUINED my day!

And I don't really care if you think I'm being mean or not!!!

Met said...

I'll get to this tomorrow night. We need a forum for debates at this rate...

Reogan said...

It's well past 'tomorrow.'

Met said...

When I feel like it...

Sorry, I will get to this, I've just got other things in my life I need to work out for now.

Elphaba said...

Not to open up a semi-healed wound or anything, but I'm still waiting for your response. (I say semi-healed because this whole thing still bothers me. Deeply.)

Met said...

Alright; I'm finally coming back to this. I'm not going to respond to some of your things seeing as Elphaba did respond later. Here it is...

Reogan:
"If that's the case, then I, as a performer, succeed. As an entertainer, it's my job to fascinate. But I must reiterate that she's captivated by you as well. I think. I hate speaking for her like this."

As far as I've seen it's rare that you fail.

"I believe."

I'll take your word for it for now, but sometimes I find it hard...

"Elphaba's expressed to me her interest in the character of Met alone, in addition to your works. If you think I simply fabricate false realities now, there's no way I can convince you otherwise. All I can say is that my fiction is fairly obviously fiction. This seems real to me."

She might've just been interested because she had no clue who I was. What I'm having a problem with here is that what you write is what you do and it's not who you are it's what you do.

"Putting aside vanity (Of which I have much), I concede. I am the entertainer. But that's who I am. Sometimes, though, people need more than just entertainment. Surely you can see that?"

Of course you would concede; I expected nothing less from you. I can see that, but it's not what they (the people) want.

"""Reogan is entirely real. He is me. I am him."""

""Yes... I'm not that dumb despite what you may think...""

"No! I had to double-quote! Anyway, I mean only that Reogan and I are two but one. He has different thoughts and will than I. He's crazy. He's dangerous. Yet all at once, he is still me. He sees me in a similar way, except more dull."

Triple quote! :) These statements of yours make little sense. Are you arrogant enough to suggest that you are like the Trinity? I doubt it, and that's probably not your intention, but this statement makes no sense: Reogan is you, what more can you add to this, but excuses distancing you from your own actions?

I'll respond to Elphaba in my next comment. The remaining statements you've made I understand as resolved due to our current status.

Met said...

Alright here we go...

Elphaba:
"Okay, you know what, Met?!? I was fully prepared to stand up for you!"

Under what circumstances?

"You think that I like you less than Reogan??? Let me give you a few examples of how that's not true:"

Yeah I do, but I doubt you'll admit it openly. It doesn't really bother me as much as it used to and it's fine as long as you don't rub it in my face.

"I consistently remind Reogan that he is not the only admin on his blog!"

I'm guessing you do this to quell his arrogance, not because you don't like him more. If my guess is wrong then please tell me why.

"I commented on one of his other blogs that you were better at arguing logic with him than I was!"

So therefore you can use me as an ally to combat him when it suits your purpose. I appreciate the compliment though, but I fail to see how this is an example of how you think you don't like Reogan more. You're comparing Met to Elphaba, something that seems irrelevant in the circumstances, but I appreciate the compliment.

"If you noticed, I didn't comment on Reogan's other song of the week, and the fact that I listened now had NOTHING to do with the author who posted it!"

His original was posted before you started commenting more. Anyway; for now I'll take your word for it.

"You seem to be really mad at me,"

No just generally wary as I often am and perturbed in this instance. When I originally commented for the first time I was under a lot of stress and many things were accumulating that I felt I had to deal with until it became an outright problem to me. This excuse though is just that, so let me say right now that I'm sorry for going on such a harsh rant; will you forgive me? I believe this still has some good purpose to it though as we resolve issues together.

"and for the life of me, I cannot figure out why!"

That's okay; I'm used to that also. I tend to fight all my battles with the intention to win when that isn't a realistic outcome; not a good trait to have on the internet. Again I apologize and ask for forgiveness.

"Half the time, I don't comment on Reogan's stuff either! I'm trying to comment more regularly because Reogan asked me to on one of his other blogs. I thought it was a good idea, and NOT because Reogan thought of it!"

Alright; I concede because Reogan owns this blog with posts numbering past 200 and growing while I'm barely at 40. It's just the fact that my few posts barely receive the massive commenting sprees that Reogan's do due to the topics. That's my excuse again, but again I ask you for forgiveness in this matter as no amount of excuses can make up for me taking something a little too far.

Looks like this is a little long... The rest is in the following comment.

Met said...

"Yes, I feel differently about Reogan and you. But at the risk of sounding like a jerk (although, at this point, I don't really care WHAT you think of me!), NO DUH! You're two completely different people!"

Yes I understand this and it's the reason why I shouldn't have a problem with you if you enjoy his writing more, but I just ask that you be low key about it for my sake.

"I used to enjoy the fact that you used logic, that you weren't afraid to stand up for your faith on a private blog, and that you seemed more grounded in reality than Reogan."

I appreciate the compliments although I would've realized this when you still used the present tense...

"But the past tense is because you're acting like a jerk! Instead of askimg me why I finally started to listen to SOTW, you just assume it's because of Reogan!"

Sorry; I'm sort of used to him seizing all the glory and thus I assumed.

"That is judgemental and hurtful."

You are absolutely correct; I apologize, will you forgive me?

"Seriously, you were a really good friend, Met, but you totally just RUINED my day!"

Your usage of the past tense ruined my day the day I read this the first time, but since then we've moved on some more so I no longer know where you stand specifically. How was I a really good friend anyway? I didn't think I did anything to warrant that.

"And I don't really care if you think I'm being mean or not!!!"

I'd like to think I have the respect to listen to you without slandering your every comment because you were "mean" so it doesn't bother me. Sticks and stones my break my bones, but words will never hurt me. While mostly true; this adage is certainly something to be taken into account on the internet.

Sorry for taking so long with this and I appreciate the fact that you brought this to my attention again. I await your response...

Reogan said...

"What I'm having a problem with here is that what you write is what you do and it's not who you are it's what you do."

Again, I write fiction. Does that mean I can't speak sincerely?

"Triple quote! :) These statements of yours make little sense. Are you arrogant enough to suggest that you are like the Trinity? I doubt it, and that's probably not your intention, but this statement makes no sense: Reogan is you, what more can you add to this, but excuses distancing you from your own actions?"

I am not one, I can promise that much. I really can't say more, as I'm assured there's a story waiting to be written about it. Regardless, there are no actions for which I seek excuses to distance myself from.

I think that's all I have to say in response.

Elphaba said...

""Okay, you know what, Met?!? I was fully prepared to stand up for you!""

"Under what circumstances?"

I felt bad that you thought people liked Reogan more than you, and I do think Reogan's ego needs deflating from time to time.

""You think that I like you less than Reogan??? Let me give you a few examples of how that's not true:""

"Yeah I do, but I doubt you'll admit it openly. It doesn't really bother me as much as it used to and it's fine as long as you don't rub it in my face."

No, I don't. I know Reogan more well than I know you, and I care for him in different ways (all friendships are different), but that really is the extent of it.

"I'm guessing you do this to quell his arrogance, not because you don't like him more. If my guess is wrong then please tell me why."

Yes, partially it is to quell his arrogance, but it's also because I think, as the other admin, you deserve just as much credit as Reogan does.

No just generally wary as I often am and perturbed in this instance. When I originally commented for the first time I was under a lot of stress and many things were accumulating that I felt I had to deal with until it became an outright problem to me. This excuse though is just that, so let me say right now that I'm sorry for going on such a harsh rant; will you forgive me? I believe this still has some good purpose to it though as we resolve issues together."

I know the feeling of being overstressed; trust me. And I do forgive you. :)

To be continued...

Elphaba said...

"Yes I understand this and it's the reason why I shouldn't have a problem with you if you enjoy his writing more, but I just ask that you be low key about it for my sake."

Sorry, I'm kind of a writing nerd. Your recent pieces (i.e. Return, Death by a Thousand Paper Cuts) were very good as well--I enjoyed them a lot.

"Your usage of the past tense ruined my day the day I read this the first time, but since then we've moved on some more so I no longer know where you stand specifically. How was I a really good friend anyway? I didn't think I did anything to warrant that."

I do apologize for wrecking your day. I'm no longer mad about this; but (like you said) it had some unresolved issues, which is why I opened it up again. You're a good friend because I feel comfortable talking to you, I know you'll accept me even with all my quirks and temper issues (sorry...), and--most importantly--you consistently say things like "God Bless" or "I'm praying for you" to me. I like that very much; thank you. :)

"I'd like to think I have the respect to listen to you without slandering your every comment because you were "mean" so it doesn't bother me. Sticks and stones my break my bones, but words will never hurt me. While mostly true; this adage is certainly something to be taken into account on the internet."

The only reason I put that "mean" thing is was because I sometimes have issues with my temper--just ask my family. :) And thank you for respecting me in that way--I respect you in that way as well, even with my short temper fuse. (Believe it or not, I've gotten better. :P)

And, since you repeatedly asked for forgiveness, I just want to cover them all: you're forgiven. May I have your forgiveness for losing my temper and acting like a jerk?

Met said...

Reogan:
"Again, I write fiction. Does that mean I can't speak sincerely?"

Of course not, but what you write is what you do and inevitably a part of you is in that writing. That's all I'm worried about here. You blame your writing on Reogan, not yourself. That is what I have a problem with.

"I am not one, I can promise that much. I really can't say more, as I'm assured there's a story waiting to be written about it. Regardless, there are no actions for which I seek excuses to distance myself from."

Again I fail to see how this works out. However, since you seem to enjoy the idea of communism could you possibly be reaching for an ideal such as this? "““WHAT AM I,” then? Since childhood, I’ve passed through a flow of milk, smells, stories, sounds, emotions, nursery rhymes, substances, gestures, ideas, impressions, gazes, songs, and foods. What am I? Tied in every way to places, sufferings, ancestors, friends, loves, events, languages, memories, to all kinds of things that obviously are not me. Everything that attaches me to the world, all the links that constitute me, all the forces that compose me don’t form an identity, a thing displayable on cue, but a singular, shared, living existence, from which emerges – at certain times and places – that being which says “I.” Our feeling of inconsistency is simply the consequence of this foolish belief in the permanence of the self and of the little care we give to what makes us what we are” (The Invisible Committee, 4)" Yes that is quoted directly from my research paper (full thing is on Facebook if I'm a friend). This is from The Coming Insurrection by the Invisible Committee and I know this is one of your "banned" topics on this blog (politics), but I can't help but wonder if this is what you mean. If so I'd like to cut straight from politics into religion and talk about your soul. Yes I just went for two "taboo" topics, deal with it. I await your response.

Reogan said...

"You blame your writing on Reogan, not yourself."

Actually, I credit it to him. Would that I could be him.

Two taboo topics? Nice.

Reogan is an ideal. He is who writes and who comments. He is the source of all ideas. He is all my strengths, bound with a ribbon of Pride, and threaded with Wrath and Sloth.

Met said...

Elphaba:
"I felt bad that you thought people liked Reogan more than you, and I do think Reogan's ego needs deflating from time to time."

I agree, but you don't need to feel bad for me. It doesn't really matter, but I appreciate your concern. I'm just trying to find the truth here regarding this "Reogan" character... (to think I've known him for nearly 15 years...)

"No, I don't. I know Reogan more well than I know you, and I care for him in different ways (all friendships are different), but that really is the extent of it."

I can accept that; thank you for clarifying.

"Yes, partially it is to quell his arrogance, but it's also because I think, as the other admin, you deserve just as much credit as Reogan does."

Thank you :)

"I know the feeling of being overstressed; trust me. And I do forgive you. :)"

Thank you my friend. I'll try to make your forgiveness of me worthwhile.

"Sorry, I'm kind of a writing nerd. Your recent pieces (i.e. Return, Death by a Thousand Paper Cuts) were very good as well--I enjoyed them a lot."

Thank you, although I'd appreciate a comment on the actual post that brings up an interesting aspect, but of course this is easier said then done. This does not diminish the writings of Reogan one bit, and that is how it should be. After all, Reogan is an excellent writer and much better then me: I think we all know that.

"I do apologize for wrecking your day. I'm no longer mad about this; but (like you said) it had some unresolved issues, which is why I opened it up again. You're a good friend because I feel comfortable talking to you, I know you'll accept me even with all my quirks and temper issues (sorry...), and--most importantly--you consistently say things like "God Bless" or "I'm praying for you" to me. I like that very much; thank you. :)"

Thank you, hearing you say this lets me know that my works have not gone unnoticed, but even if they had I should've (I don't know if I would've) toiled all the harder so that others might see. Yes I'm a Christian (every person who comments often on this blog to this point is) and I do my best, but I know I fall short often. I say those things because I mean them and I want to be able to live up to the standard I set for myself. Yes, I even keep this blog in my prayers and every single author. God is the reason this blog is successful and if the blog fails; God's Will is done. I have faith that He knows everything.

As far as the rest of your post goes; I have temper issues as well, but luckily the internet isn't often a place where you have to think fast. You are forgiven, and thank you for bringing this up again. Now let's hope ner vod Reogan doesn't extend the discussion on this post too long. I could use a break.

Met said...

"Actually, I credit it to him. Would that I could be him."

Blaming and crediting are pretty much the same except the sense is antagonistic and protagonistic respectively. So I concede.

"Two taboo topics? Nice."

Thank you, and what is your opinion of my quote?

"Reogan is an ideal. He is who writes and who comments. He is the source of all ideas. He is all my strengths, bound with a ribbon of Pride, and threaded with Wrath and Sloth."

Sort of like your own personal Constitution?

Reogan said...

The quote is false. There is a permanence of self. Or selves, I suppose, in some people.

Not a Constitution. It's a state which is channeled, but never achieved.

Met said...

"The quote is false."

Thank you! Now I'd appreciate it if you stopped fooling around with Communism and took it seriously, because people actually believe that; and those that do are mainly communist.

"There is a permanence of self. Or selves, I suppose, in some people."

That doesn't sound like a very sure judgement.

"Not a Constitution. It's a state which is channeled, but never achieved."

Starting to go New Age on me huh? Sounds a bit Nirvana-ish.

Reogan said...

The judgment is sure in that there is permanence. All that was meant is that multiple permanances may exist in one being - that a single body can be host to multiple beings.

It's an ideal. You can be it for a time, but it isn't really you.

Met said...

Why do I get the feeling you created this abstract concept/ideal on the fly to distract me from what you originally meant? Regardless as I'm combing through old posts and comments I realize that January 23rd had to be one of the worst days in my life; a foreshadowing of the terrible month of February that was to come. You've already forgiven me here, but I still feel like an idiot for going off like I did. I'll just say sorry again and leave it at that.

Reogan said...

I can assure you that I have told you no lies here.

At least from what I recall. I lack the time to actually check.